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Vitamins, supplements and telomerase – upregulation or downregulation?
It seems like scarcely a day goes by now without new telomerase research news items showing up in the popular press, the latest having to do with fish oil. I mention this news here but my purpose is to make a few broader points:
1. Taking a number of popular supplements in the anti-aging firewalls Supplement Regimen like Vitamin E, fish oils, Vitamin D3 and resveratrol can lead to telomeres being longer than they otherwise might be, possibly because they induce the production of telomerase, possibly for other reasons. As such, these supplements are quite possibly life-extending.
2. Despite the popular conception, telomere lengths do not uniformly get shorter with advancing age. Sometimes they get longer over substantial periods of time. Nobody is quite sure of how or why.
3. Many of the same supplements that lead to longer telomeres in healthy people seem to have the capacity to turn off telomerase and shorten telomeres in cancer cells and help kill them.
Fish Oil and longer telomeres
Yesterday’s news is based on a January 20 publication in JAMA: Association of marine omega-3 fatty acid levels with telomeric aging in patients with coronary heart disease. “Context Increased dietary intake of marine omega-3 fatty acids is associated with prolonged survival in patients with coronary heart disease. However, the mechanisms underlying this protective effect are poorly understood. — Objective To investigate the association of omega-3 fatty acid blood levels with temporal changes in telomere length, an emerging marker of biological age. — Design, Setting, and Participants Prospective cohort study of 608 ambulatory outpatients in California with stable coronary artery disease recruited from the Heart and Soul Study between September 2000 and December 2002 and followed up to January 2009 (median, 6.0 years; range, 5.0-8.1 years). — Main Outcome Measures We measured leukocyte telomere length at baseline and again after 5 years of follow-up. — Results Individuals in the lowest quartile of DHA+EPA experienced the fastest rate of telomere shortening (0.13 telomere-to-single-copy gene ratio [T/S] units over 5 years; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.09-0.17), whereas those in the highest quartile experienced the slowest rate of telomere shortening (0.05 T/S units over 5 years; 95% CI, 0.02-0.08; P < .001 for linear trend across quartiles). –. Each 1-SD increase in DHA+EPA levels was associated with a 32% reduction in the odds of telomere shortening (adjusted odds ratio, 0.68; 95% CI, 0.47-0.98). — Conclusion Among this cohort of patients with coronary artery disease, there was an inverse relationship between baseline blood levels of marine omega-3 fatty acids and the rate of telomere shortening over 5 years.”
The temptation is to conclude that “taking fish oils leads to less telomere length shortening,” but that is not what the study says. The conclusions of this study are based on levels of DHA and EPA measured at baseline and do not take possible supplementation during the study period into account. Further, the study population was a very special one, people with coronary artery disease. Another temptation is to conclude that fish oil leads to the expression of telomerase, but this conclusion is also not directly supported. The study does not say why the rate of telomere shortening was less in those with higher baseline levels of the fish oils. Nontheless, the popular press has yielded to these temptations with news story titles like Is Fish Oil the Elixir of Life? And Stay young by eating fish oil, say scientists. I chalk this up to a general hunger in the population for anti-aging news. And now, after Blackburn, Greider and Szostak have received a Nobel prize for work on telomeres and telomerase, it is almost household news that longer telomeres are associated with longevity and are better for health.
Natural telomere lengthening with age
The report on omega-3 fish oils and telomeres was preceded two weeks ago by another PLoS ONE report based on data for the same 608 individuals in the Heart and Soul Study Telomere length trajectory and its determinants in persons with coronary artery disease: longitudinal findings from the heart and soul study. “METHODOLOGY/PRINCIPAL FINDINGS: In a prospective cohort study of 608 individuals with stable coronary artery disease, we measured leukocyte telomere length at baseline, and again after five years of follow-up. We used multivariable linear and logistic regression models to identify the independent predictors of leukocyte telomere trajectory. Baseline and follow-up telomere lengths were normally distributed. Mean telomere length decreased by 42 base pairs per year (p<0.001). Three distinct telomere trajectories were observed: shortening in 45%, maintenance in 32%, and lengthening in 23% of participants. The most powerful predictor of telomere shortening was baseline telomere length (OR per SD increase = 7.6; 95% CI 5.5, 10.6). Other independent predictors of telomere shortening were age (OR per 10 years = 1.6; 95% CI 1.3, 2.1), male sex (OR = 2.4; 95% CI 1.3, 4.7), and waist-to-hip ratio (OR per 0.1 increase = 1.4; 95% CI 1.0, 2.0). CONCLUSIONS/SIGNIFICANCE: Leukocyte telomere length may increase as well as decrease in persons with coronary artery disease. Telomere length trajectory is powerfully influenced by baseline telomere length, possibly suggesting negative feedback regulation. Age, male sex, and abdominal obesity independently predict telomere shortening.”
Note that this is not the first study to show average telomere length increasing for a substantial part of the study population over a substantial period of time. According to a large Swedish study, a third of the population experienced telomere lengthening over 9 to 11 year intervals(ref).
Fish Oil, other supplements and turning off telomerase in cancers
According to the 2005 report Polyunsaturated fatty acids inhibit telomerase activity in DLD-1 human colorectal adenocarcinoma cells: a dual mechanism approach “We investigated the inhibitory effect of various fatty acids on telomerase, with particular emphasis on those with antitumor properties, such as eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA). – In contrast, cis-unsaturated fatty acids significantly inhibited the enzyme, and the inhibitory potency was elevated with an increase in the number of double bonds. Accordingly, polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs), like EPA and DHA, appeared to be powerful telomerase inhibitors. — Culturing DLD-1 cells with either EPA or DHA resulted in a remarkable decrease in telomerase activity. EPA and DHA inhibited telomerase by down-regulating human telomerase reverse transcriptase (hTERT) and c-myc expression via protein kinase C inhibition. These results indicate that PUFAs can directly inhibit the enzymatic activity of telomerase as well as modulate the telomerase at the transcriptional level.”
So there we have it. The same DHA and EPA fish oils that seem to be correlated with longer telomeres in the recent population study also clobber telomerase in a cancer cell line. This property seems to be shared by several other popular supplements as well.
Alpha-tocopherol (Vitamin E) seems to repress age-related telomere shortening(ref). Yet, the 2007 study Vitamin E suppresses telomerase activity in ovarian cancer cells concludes “Our data suggest that, by suppressing telomerase activity, Vitamin E may be an important protective agent against ovarian cancer cell growth as well as a potentially effective therapeutic adjuvant.”
Another supplement that is both associated with longer telomere lengths and that inhibits telomerase expression in cancer cells is Vitamin D3. The 2007 paper Higher serum vitamin D concentrations are associated with longer leukocyte telomere length in women reports ”Serum vitamin D concentrations were measured in 2160 women aged 18–79 y (mean age: 49.4) – Serum vitamin D concentrations were positively associated with LTL (longer telomere length) (r = 0.07, P = 0.0010), and this relation persisted after adjustment for age (r = 0.09, P < 0.0001) and other covariates (age, season of vitamin D measurement, menopausal status, use of hormone replacement therapy, and physical activity; P for trend across tertiles = 0.003). The difference in LTL between the highest and lowest tertiles of vitamin D was 107 base pairs (P = 0.0009), which is equivalent to 5.0 y of telomeric aging.” Yet, D3 is another substance that can help inhibit the expression of telomerase in cancer cells as pointed out in the 2003 publication Combination treatment with 1alpha,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3 and 9-cis-retinoic acid directly inhibits human telomerase reverse transcriptase transcription in prostate cancer cells. Also, see Induction of Ovarian Cancer Cell Apoptosis by 1,25-Dihydroxyvitamin D3 through the Down-regulation of Telomerase.
Resveratrol is another supplement substance that seems to have a dual personality, on the one hand associated with enhancing telomerase activity in healthy cells(ref)(ref) and on the other hand inhibiting expression of telomerase in cancer cells(ref)(ref).
The active ingredient in green tea EGCG appears to be yet another dietary substance with the dual personality characteristic. Drinking ample quantities of green tea appears to slow down age-dependent telomere shortening on the one hand(ref), and EGCG represses telomerase expression in cancer cells(ref)(ref). I am sure the same point can be made for other substances in the anti-aging supplement regimen.
Telomerase regulation is in fact a very complex process(ref). As I have put it in my treatise “These results suggests to me that telomere shortening is a complex process involving a balance of shortening due to cell division, lengthening due to natural telomerase expression and perhaps cell replacement due to differentiation of stem cells. And these in turn are affected by many lifestyle and dietary factors and moderated by cell-signaling feedback loops.”
Yet, it could well be the case that management of telomere length is our best hope for realizing extraordinary longevity in the nearer future. The 12th theory of aging in my treatise Telomere Shortening and Damage forwards the hypothesis that longer telomere lengths are likely to be correlated with longer lifespans and that keeping one’s telomeres as long as possible through expression of telomerase is vital for health and longevity. Telomeres and telomerase are among my favorite subjects for treatment in this blog. Among the many relevant blog postings are the recent postings Exercise, telomerase and telomeres, Timely telomerase tidbits, Breakthrough telomere research finding, and Telomere and telomerase writings. And, as time proceeds, I expect there will be more.
22. January 2010 at 16:28
Hello — I’m new to this group and would appreciate any guidance on timing my supplement intake to avoid canceling out benefits below is my regime. thanks
-Before Breakfast
NAC (on an empty stomach to boost Glutathione levels)
-w/Breakfast
Resveratrol 250mg (Revgenetics)
Quercetin 250MG
Curcumin (250MG)
Fish oil (500MG DHA)
Multivitamin
Fruit Drink with Blueberry, BillBerry. POM
Saw Palmetto
7 Keto
ALA
D3 (1,000mg)
Vitamin C (1,000mg)
Alpha-GPC
Carnosine(250mg)
Taurine (500mg)
Milk Thistle
DIM / I3C
CoQ10 (50mg)
- Lunch
Fish oil (500MG DHA)
Multivitamin
Alpha-GPC
CoQ10 (50MG)
Whey (25grams of Protein)
- Dinner
Red Rice Yeast w/ CoQ10 (100MG) (for cholesterol)
Milk Thistle
ALA
Multi-vitamin w/ C (1,000mg)
DIM / I3C
Saw Palmetto
Carnosine(250mg)
Taurine (500mg)
Curcumin (500mg)
- Before bed
Melotonin
Lemon Balm
Astragaloside IV (from Revgenetics)
22. January 2010 at 19:17
Hi MG63
I am afraid not much is known about the timing/supplement conflict/bioavailability issue. At lease not much is known to me. I have a few comment:
- Since curcumin may possibly inhibit the effect of Astragaloside IV, you might want to bump it up to lunch instead of at supper.
- A question for you. Now that Revgenetics is no longer selling astragaloside IV or cycloastragenol, where will you get a purported telomerase-inducing supplement?
- I don’t see alpha-lipoic acid on your list, a substance powerfully synergistic with ALA in its actions on mitochondria. I take a combined ALA and alpha-lipoic acid tablet early in the day. Subjectively, I think it helps keep my head clear for hard thinking.
- I took NAC for a while and then discontinued its use. You could check out my note on the subject at http://www.vincegiuliano.name/Antiagingfirewalls.htm#N-Acetyl Cysteine
Hope this is helpful
Vince
22. January 2010 at 19:42
thanks Vince.
I take ALA in the morning and evening. Per the Astragaloside IV, they are liquidating the supply so I purchased three bottles. Going forward, I’m not sure where to purchase. I did find a site that sells it, but I do not know anything about them. http://www.terraternal.com. Would it be advisable to take Astragaloside IV at lunch and then keep the curcumin with breakfast and dinner. Breakfast for me is at 6:00am, lunch 12:00 and dinner 5:30/6:00.
As for NAC, I was looking for something to help with Glutathione production. I tried a Glutathione Patch and investigated OSR1. http://www.leesilsby.com/osr.php
25. January 2010 at 15:25
In your opinion, which is more effective on telomerase - astragaloside IV or cycloastragenoll? Since RevGenetics is selling 5mg of Cycloastragenol at a discount I was going to stock-up but was not sure if it was worth the investment. thanks.
25. January 2010 at 18:24
Hi MG63
I do not know the answer to your question and I know of no research that definitively answers it. Nor am I sure exactly how effective each is. I strongly suspect that both may confer longevity benefits, possibly important ones, such as related to somatic stem cell proliferative survival. I also expect that while they may slow age-related or disease-related telomere erosion that in fact they do NOT generally extend telomeres. If TA65 did extend telomeres, now, after two years, we should be able to see some published clinical data to that effect. Instead, there appears to be only a few anectdotal stories.
It may be that these substances are no more effective for keeping telomeres long than the popular supplements like vitamins D3 and E mentioned in this blog post. It is important to pay attention to serious published research despite the hope and hype.
Vince
25. January 2010 at 23:14
MG63, regarding your January 22 post:
I too have been purchasing Astral Fruit from Revgenetics, but now that it is discontinuing selling cycloastragenol because of violating the Geron patent I will have to find another supplier. Fortunately I have a few bottles of it left. I do not know about http://www.terraternal.com but will look into it.
I take my telomerase activator around 5 or 6PM and take my resveratrol, green tea extract, curcumin, etc in the morning and just before bedtime with a snack, the objective is to separate the times by 5-6 hours. Most days I can do this. I will read your suggested post re. Glutathione.
Vince
26. January 2010 at 23:18
In your Firewall Supplements, you mention either 5mg of the cycloastragenoll or 100mg astragaloside IV …are those differing quantities providing approximate equivalence in your opinion? If the T65 uses about 100mg, is your guess then that the Astragaloside IV may be approximately the same as the T65?
You also mention taking separately the astralagus extract stand 0.5%, and if you don’t mind saying who you source for that? What additionally do you think that might add to the regimen?
Thanks
27. January 2010 at 23:57
Hi Lee
You are asking about a question that has been long-debated.See the long discussion thread on the substance at
http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=19921&st=460&p=340089entry340089
The original TA65 dose was 5mg, and oeople paid $25,000 a year for the original Patton Protocol. That was for only 6 months of treatment. Now there has been rumors that they have upped the dose to 100mg. However the TA sciences webpage http://www.tasciences.com/ta65molecule.html
still says that the capsules are 5mg.
What TA65 consists of is a proprietary secret to TA Sciences. However the Geron patent related to astragalus-based telomerase activators is in the public domain. Based on what is said in the patent, 100mg of astragaloside IV and 5mg of cycloastragenol have the same telomerase-activating capability. So, the main speculation has been that TA65 is cycloastragenol, although that is not for certain.
I am now taking both cycloastragenol purchased from Revgenetics and a Natures Way astragulus extract. I am taking the astragalus extract because most of the considerible literature on beneficial effects of astragalus are for astragalus, while there is no real medical literature on the highly specific cycloastragenol component. Only what is in the Geron patent.
Vince
28. January 2010 at 05:53
Many, many thanks for bringing me up to speed so quickly on this issue.
15. February 2010 at 07:56
I would move the Carnosine and Taurine to before breakfast (at least one hour) and before bedtime (at least two hours after dinner). They are free form amino acids and do not need the competition from other foods or minerals for absorption. Carnosine should also be a 500mg dose to overcome the degrading enzyme.
I agree with the poster that there should be more time between the telomerase inhibitors and the IV. 5-6 hours just is not enough; it should be 12 hours minimum.
Your D3 dose is likely meaning to be 1000 IU not 1000 mg (40000 IU). Even so, 1000 IU is woefully insufficient as the human body uses around 5000 IU a day.
15. February 2010 at 21:58
Hi Machineghost
In fact, I do take carnosine before breakfast and before bedtime at the 500mg level. I should probably make that clearer in my regimen listing.
I have switched to cycloastragenol from astragaloside IV but I agree that it would be better to allow more time between taking it and the purported telomerase inhibitors, like 12 hours. I don’t quite know how to do this practically, however, without reducing my dosings of those inhibitors like resveratrol and fish oil down to once a day. Since I have come to look to them for multiple positive effects I have so far hesitated to cut back on them. Actual scientific data on the results of taking telomerase activators is very scarce as you probably know, while the results of taking the other substances are much better studied. I am open to learning more about this topic.
As to D3, you are right on both counts. I have been doing 4,000 iu a day and need to update my treatise accordingly.
Vince
23. February 2010 at 07:16
Vince,
All the discussed substances are anti-inflammitary in nature
and chronic inflamation causes telomere erosion.
They may not be increasing Telomerase expression but simply reducing erosion.
Just a thought.
Mike
23. February 2010 at 20:34
Mike
You are correct about these substances, anti-inflammatories and antioxidants, helping to prevent telomere errosion. In fact, in the right circumstances some of them may contribute to telomere lengthening. Over the last year I have come to see telomere length maintenance as ever more-important matter but also as requiring a complex multifacated approach. Taking a “telomerase activating” supplement may be less important than a lot of other measures, including regular exercise. I have sought to express that viewpopint in my blog writings and in my treatise.
Vince